Alfie Darling

Discussion in 'Movies, TV, Shows etc. etc.' started by hollyh, Jul 15, 2006.

  1. hollyh

    hollyh Founder Member

    Just finished watching this again (thanks jj!) and I have to say it really is an awful movie. A cheesy script, grainy photography, and a completely unbelievable plot -- part travelogue, part soft-core pornography, part soap opera. Considering how good the first Alfie movie was, this is a sorry follow-up. And of course I ate up every frame (well, at least every frame Alan was in, which was nearly the entire film).

    It really is too bad, because if this had had a decent director and a halfway intelligent script, Alan might have gone on to make more films. He has considerable screen magnetism, and wasn't half bad acting-wise. (Except at the end, when he had to try to screw up some tears of grief :roll: -- not very convincing there.) As it was, he himself took one look at the movie and promptly vowed never to make another, and I do not blame him.

    Having said all that -- :cool: -- I was completely enthralled. Alan had marvelous hair back then, didn't he? And such a cheeky way about him, so charming. A properly trained actor might have figured out how to connect the cheeky Alfie with the serious Alfie; Alan apparently hadn't a clue, so he couldn't rise above the implausible character development. But we did get some lovely views of his, er, physique.

    And help me -- I just don't get Jill Townsend's attraction. Not being jealous or anything (at least trying very hard not to), but she's no beauty, and not much of an actress either.

    But maybe I'm missing something. I'd better go back and watch it again... :lol:
  2. hollyh

    hollyh Founder Member

    Still in a swoon, I'm afraid. :roll:
  3. bennyb

    bennyb New Member

    a mediocre film, I agree; nevertheless, I still enjoy scrolling through these pics. Have a look.

  4. Jean

    Jean Webmaster Staff Member

    Thank you for that link Benny
    very interesting!!!

    I don't quite agree about it being a mediocre film as I think any film Alan makes is GREAT.
    and BTW welcome to the forum hope to see you around again soon.
  5. hollyh

    hollyh Founder Member

    Mmmmmm-- delicious photos, Benny. Thanks sooo much for that link!
  6. lullaby

    lullaby New Member

    Out of curiosity, I looked up a résumé of the movie a few months ago... I wouldn't watch it even if a terrorist tied me to a chair in a basement, set my hair on fire and stuck a screen in front of me with the Alfalfa picture rolling.[hr]
  7. Jean

    Jean Webmaster Staff Member


    'Alfalfa picture' ??? [​IMG]

    Did you mean to quote the same post twice was that an error?

    And you don't say anything except you wouldn't watch the film or why you don't like it.
    How do you know if you would like it or not if you haven't watched it -

    Résumés are just other peoples' opinions [​IMG]
  8. milka

    milka New Member

  9. lullaby

    lullaby New Member

    No, I really have seen parts of it, and I concluded that I wasn't interested in watching the whole thing, even if Alan Price was in it or not... besides, I'm not crazy about those kind of movies, I really do have something against them in general, it's not just this particular picture. As for Alan Price's performance as an actor, I think he'd have been a good stage actor, in a Courteline comedy or something along those lines. There's a lot of characters he could have incarnated beautifully on stage; I'm thinking of Hugo Barrine in The Dirty Hands or Kaliayev in The just assassins . Those, for instance, would have been good characters for him. And I mean it. I bet he could do it, because he's sensible enough (as an artist) to be able to get these people. Maybe he didn't quite nail Aflie (and evidently, the role wasn't the one to help launch his acting career... I'm hope I'm not getting that wrong, and if I did I'm asking people not to claw my face up too bad :(), but he'd probably been more sensible with stage characters, which, afterall, is an environment he's more accustomed to (by that, I mean he's more familiar with stage settings and not just performing for a camera, as he's a working musician).

    ( Last note : I made a mistake in typing, somewhere I wrote 'un' instead of 'on', and I'm not very good at computers, so I ended up reposting the whole thing, that wasn't intended :( )
  10. Jean

    Jean Webmaster Staff Member

    ( Last note : I made a mistake in typing, somewhere I wrote 'un' instead of 'on', and I'm not very good at computers, so I ended up reposting the whole thing, that wasn't intended ) LOL Lullaby - easily done. I have removed one copy for you -hope that is ok.

    With regard to not liking that sort of film (Alfie) I have seen much worse on TV on a Saturday afternoon.:huh:

    Alan says he didn't make any more films because he hated having to get on set at crack of dawn and not
    finishing until late at night- he thought film making would be much easier than touring around with a show
    but it wasn't!
    He did make another film, for TV, a year or so back called 'Heartbeat' and of course we must not forget
    he was in "Oh! Lucky Man"

  11. hollyh

    hollyh Founder Member

    Somehow I believe that Alan isn't a crack-of-dawn sort of person. :lol:

    I agree, lullaby, Alfie Darling was hardly a quality vehicle; it was pure soap opera entertainment fluff -- as opposed to the original film Alfie, which launched the career of Michael Caine. The original Alfie was I think an insightful commentary on the male ego and the British class system.

    I wish that Alan had been more cautious in his choice of film roles -- though if what jean says is true, Alan probably was turned off by the whole film acting routine and wouldn't have done another movie. (Maybe O Lucky Man! fooled him because Lindsay Anderson worked on a more relaxed schedule -- or maybe Alan's smaller role in that movie meant he didn't have the same sort of grueling schedule.)

    I think I remember seeing an interview where Alan said he was deeply embarrassed by his own performance in Alfie Darling. As I recall, he said that the director noticed a certain facial expression that Alan was prone to and told him never to make that face again -- and Alan became so hyper-conscious about his expressions, he was on edge the whole rest of the filming. He doesn't seem to be as natural on screen in this film as he was in O Lucky Man!

    I believe that stage acting is a real challenge, though, if you're not trained for it. At least on film they can do multiple takes, and eventually get it right.When he wrote the music for the Andy Capp musical, he did play a role on stage as a sort of narrator. I wonder how that went for him. Anybody know anything about that?
  12. lullaby

    lullaby New Member

    No, he's probably more of a crack-of-noon kind of person, haha!

    I don't know much about the Andy Capp production, but I'll look around for something concerning it- if I find anything pertinent I'll let you know.
  13. hollyh

    hollyh Founder Member

    I got the Andy Capp cast album, but it's in vinyl, and until recently I didn't have a working turntable to listen to it. Must get it out again!
  14. Daria

    Daria New Member

    oh my gooood! i hope i'll get my disc in about 2 weeks!!! Finally I'll watch it! Can't wait!
  15. Jean

    Jean Webmaster Staff Member

    I am sure you will enjoy it Daria. As Holly said, not a great work of art
    but as Alan is in it all the way through it is very watchable, again and
    again and again :woot:
  16. Daria

    Daria New Member

    ahhhh, thank you, Jean. I'll share my emotions after watching it))) hope i'll get it all right and it will work fine.
  17. hollyh

    hollyh Founder Member

    Daria, I'll bet you will enjoy it. After reading this discussion, you won't be expecting it to be a major work of art!
  18. Daria

    Daria New Member

    oh i expect it to be a movie with Alan as a main hero :) that's quite enough for me really)
    so it's probably out of such categories as good and bad. but i want to watch it first, and then i'll tell you my opinion on it)
  19. hollyh

    hollyh Founder Member

    The photo in my avatar is from the movie. I watched it on my computer and did a few image captures along the way. Got some very delicious shots!
  20. Daria

    Daria New Member

    oh my... i noticed that your avatar is from the movie :) ooooh i want to see the pics :D and the movie! I'm so greedy :D

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